D&D 4th :: My Paladin Hurls You Into The Sun!

[Peturabo]

Are any of us folks at the Pompey club going to be running some D&D 4th? The price of less than £50 for the core rules - in a handsome slipcase no less - seems like a bargain.

Seriously, is anyone going to be running some games? I'm not taking the piss here I'd like to play some to give it a go.

I'm particularly interested in the collaborative storytelling techniques that the system will stimulate - after the pablum that was 3rd Edition I hope D&D 4th encapsulates some innovative scene framing techniques that really empower players.*

Cheers
Paladin Pete

* Okay, now I am taking the mick But seriously, let's play.

[Avatar]

The Slipcae is bloody expensive when you can get the individual books for a lot less and a bigger discount.

[pedr]

I'm particularly interested in the collaborative storytelling techniques that the system will stimulate - after the pablum that was 3rd Edition I hope D&D 4th encapsulates some innovative scene framing techniques that really empower players.*

You mock (fairly, of course...) but some of the preview discussions suggest that the designers have significantly reduced the attempts at simulationism in certain aspects of the game, and the 'skill challenges' rules suggest that they will allow considerably more creative input from the players, in some circumstances, coupled with what seems to me to be a conflict resolution system. The example which some have played involves the need to escape a city while the guards are chasing you; players then choose one of their skills, wager that they will beat an 'easy' 'moderate' or 'hard' challenge, describe what they're doing with their skill to help them/the party escape, then roll a skill check. If they beat their wager they get a success. If they beat a hard challenge they get some (as yet unspecified) bonus. The scene continues until either sufficient successes have been won to ensure victory or, alternatively, enough challenges have been failed that the PCs get caught (or whatever). This seems to me that GMs will be encouraged to 'say yes' if players suggest interesting ideas, rather than look at their notes and say "no, there aren't any sewers for you to climb down into - you just need to roll some Dexterity checks to see if you out-run them."

(sorry for the minor thread-jack, and interloping into your forum once again!)

[Peturabo]

The Slipcae is bloody expensive when you can get the individual books for a lot less and a bigger discount.

Certainly I cannot quibble with the veracity of your statement.

However, what are a few terces more to men of fantastic fortune and champagne pockets such as ourselves? While not so stylish and devilishly rakish as the very hat perched at an angle most coy upon mine brow, I hold it as a truth most evident that the proffered slipcase is a prized collectors item. Who are we to dismiss so lightly the munificence of the Wizards of the Coast - who surely count Iucounu the Laughing Magician in their number - by not shelling out a few pounds more in pursuit of so obviously rare an artifact?

Balls to me I agree totally Avatar dude... I just hadn't noticed that the individual price of the core books was less. Only £5 less - on Amazon - to be sure though. Is there somewhere else to get them even cheaper?

Cheers
Pete

[Kaiserjez]

Is there somewhere else to get them even cheaper?

Cheers
Pete

Ebay in a few months.....

[Peturabo]

... some of the preview discussions suggest that the designers have significantly reduced the attempts at simulationism in certain aspects of the game. This seems to me that GMs will be encouraged to 'say yes' if players suggest interesting ideas, rather than look at their notes and say "no..."

Sounds good... saying "Yes" to damn fine contributions is always good. I really am looking forward to Macca or Mike pitching up at the club sessions one Sunday with their 4th edition books in tow.

(sorry for the minor thread-jack, and interloping into your forum once again!)

I believe I speak for all when I say that the Pompey forum is open to all, so please continue interloping. We even let ginger-haired folk post stuff, which surely establishes our credentials as the single most open forum this side of Mars

Cheers
Pete

[Al]

I believe I speak for all when I say that the Pompey forum is open to all,

I actually feel slightly guilty when I post here since I am a member of the Pompey club

[Marsten]

I say, give them about a year or so to find the wads of errors and errata from them, and make 4.5, and THEN get it if you want it

*ducks away from thrown objects*

[Peturabo]

I say, give them about a year or so to find the wads of errors and errata from them, and make 4.5, and THEN get it if you want it

*ducks away from thrown objects*

You're being quite shrewd there Marsten But shhhh, I want some of the folks at the club to buy the books and likewise I don't want to have to wait years 'till the advent of 4.5 to get some actual play under my Girdle of Ogre Power.

Sadly, I notice that nobody from the Pompey club has responded in the positive to my OP It looks like there will be no D&D 4th for me at the club. I would buy the books myself to kick start it - but again, who to play with? I just don't see Indie Rich rolling up a paragon-level tiefling barbarian-sorcerer even though I know that'd fit him like a glove.

Cheers
Pete

[Anwesh]

I'm sure that Mike will buy the books. However I think that he's gone on a round the world cruise for the next few months.

[Peturabo]

Oh right, has Mike actually gone?

I was under the impression that because of the whole busted foot thing he was being marooned on dry land for the foreseeable future?

Okay. Damn, I didn't even get to say goodbye. Uh, bye Jacque de Milos! The Spirit of Max Dollar will live on, and that sweet shag Little Pumpkin Girl will be making a re-appearance real soon

Cheers
Pete

[Mick Red]

lol he will be back in about 6 weeks
(in my day deployments were 10+ months)

[tarrasque]

fear not

mick has asked me just minutes ago to promise to bring 4th edition d&d to the club..hes looking forwards to playing a halfling barbarian in an ongoing campaign..hes already written a 65 page character history, complete with detailed family tree and illustrations.

Chris
(Timestamp is 1 hour out DPM)

[macachelsea]

I have the books on order......Watch this space.

[Kithran]

I'll do what I can to bring the 4e Worldwide D&D Gameday scenario to the club.

Kithran